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    from vicki davis – 08/11/2005

    How can it be that people aren’t getting excited about this? How can that be? Don’t people realize that the animals and birds and fish are our canaries in the mine? What is wrong with people? I really don’t get it.

    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 08/11/2005′, ‘Here in Phoenix the fish kill is being blamed on Golden Algae.
    The media does not want to connect the dots, this we know, or they all
    would be asking the same questions that we are.
    For those of us who were raised on the East Coast, we know about red
    tide. Red tide comes and goes, but what we are seeing is a
    constant "die back" of most marine life. Oh, let’s not forget about
    the failing health of just about everyone we know.
    Bridget

    TEST RESULTS IN ALL 3 COUNTIES ON THE TREASURE COAST CONFIRM.. RED
    TIDE.
    THE ALGAE IS KILLING FISH IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY.. PARTICULARLY..
    WABASSO.
    HUNDREDS OF DEAD FISH ARE WASHING UP ON THE BEACH.. AND BEACHGOERS ARE
    COMPLAINING OF COUGHING, SNEEZING AND WATERY EYES.
    SOME LIFEGUARDS ARE EVEN WEARING SURGICAL MASKS.. TO HELP PROTECT
    THEMSELVES.
    ONLY TWO PEOPLE CANCELED THEIR RESERVATIONS.. AT THE HOLIDAY INN
    OCEANSIDE IN VERO BEACH.
    OTHER HOTELS IN VERO BEACH SAY.. THEY’RE SOLD OUT.. FOR THE HOLIDAY
    WEEKEND.

    In reply to: Reply To: West Coast marine life dying – 07/13/2005

    October 30, 2013 at 2:04 am #843
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicki davis – 07/16/2005

    I have questions also. I was under the impression that great white sharks stayed mostly in the pacific because the water was colder and they like cold water. In the past few years, they seem to be showing up in the Atlantic and off the coasts. I’m wondering if that isn’t because the temperature variation between the Pacific and Atlantic is narrowing. Also, sharks are attacking people more in Florida and they are the kinds of sharks that I didn’t think were aggressive. On animals attacking people, I saw a video of a buck attacking a person. That was really crazy.

    The skunk might have been rabid. They are carriers.

    In reply to: Reply To: Pelicans in No.Dakota – 07/13/2005

    October 30, 2013 at 2:01 am #842
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicki davis – 07/16/2005
    http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2005/07/12/national/a181120D69.DTL

    Officials Probing Pelican Deaths in N.D.
    By JAMES MacPHERSON, Associated Press Writer

    Tuesday, July 12, 2005

    (07-12) 18:11 PDT Bismarck, N.D. (AP) —
    The Fish and Wildlife Service is investigating the deaths of thousands of young white pelicans at the Chase Lake National Wildlife Refuge in central North Dakota, a year after thousands of adult birds abruptly left the refuge.

    At least 8,000 white pelican chicks may have died over the past two months, spokesman Ken Torkelson said.

    "The difference is, last year the adults left first," Torkelson said. "This year, the young have died and the adults have no reason to stick around."

    Severe storms or a disease outbreak may have caused the mass die-off at the rookery, said Marsha Sovada, a biologist at the U.S. Geological Survey’s Northern Prairie Wildlife Research Center in Jamestown.

    "Because of weather and some apparent disease or disturbance of some sort, we’ve seen a reduction of birds," Sovada said.

    The Fish and Wildlife Service said an inspection of the refuge last week indicated only about 500 chicks left from a nesting period that could have produced as many as 9,000 of them. The check also showed all but about 2,000 adults had left, from a population estimated at 18,850 in late May.

    Officials had hoped the refuge would return to normal after nearly 30,000 adult pelicans took off last year, leaving their young behind. A check in late May indicated the pelicans were back, but officials still could not pinpoint what caused last year’s exodus.

    Now, they have another mystery to solve.

    The white pelican, one of the largest birds in North America, breeds only once a year, and males and females take turns caring for their young. The birds have a wingspan of nearly 10 feet and live about 25 years.

    The white pelican colony at the 4,385-acre Chase Lake National Wildlife Refuge north of Medina has been the largest in North America, peaking at 35,466 birds in 2000.

    The pelicans normally stay at the Chase Lake refuge through September, raising their young and feasting on crawfish, small fish and foot-long salamanders from small ponds known as prairie potholes.

    Samples have been sent to the National Wildlife Health Center in Madison, Wis., to try to find out what killed the young birds at Chase Lake.

    Torkelson said that will take some time.

    "They have to rule out a lot of diseases before they can pin down the correct one," he said.

    The chicks that remain at the refuge are more than a month old, still being cared for by adults, Torkelson said.

    "Typically, two hatch but only one survives," Torkelson said. "There won’t be any repeat now."

    The chicks remaining at the refuge appear to be healthy, Sovada said.

    Biologists have attached backpack-like electronic tracking equipment to eight pelicans at Chase Lake to monitor their movements when they leave the colony. Two other pelicans were to be fitted with the equipment.

    Sovada said the pelicans fitted with tracking equipment are foraging in the area, but have not returned to the rookery at Chase Lake.

    Sovada said large die-offs of pelican chicks have been reported this week at Medicine Lake National Wildlife Refuge in northeast Montana and at Waubay National Wildlife Refuge in northeast South Dakota.

    "I don’t believe they are experiencing an exodus, but they are seeing significant deaths of pelican chicks," Sovada said. "It could have no relation to what’s happening at Chase Lake."

    She said the West Nile virus likely is to blame for the chick deaths in Montana and South Dakota.

    Pelican nesting colonies in Montana, South Dakota and Minnesota also have had high chick mortality rates in the past three years, Torkelson said.

    He believes some of the pelicans will be back next year at Chase Lake, but perhaps not in great numbers.

    "I’d be surprised if zero came back and I’d be surprised if 30,000 came back," Torkelson said. "I think it will be somewhere in between."

    In reply to: Reply To: West Coast marine life dying – 07/13/2005

    October 30, 2013 at 1:59 am #841
    Mike
    Keymaster

    California coast – my observations. The algae has increased, that is my main concern. Seagulls and seals dying more (carcasses on beach). They found a kind of turtle that for this part of the ocean is rare, trying to make her nest here.. The birds were going crazy -lots of chirping, more than usual – nightbirds. They even had a bit on a morning radio program in Santa Barbara, the DJ sent two of the station workers to a place where birds were diving down and attacking people, (all for a laugh) Do you suppose that they are now nesting closer to the ground and we are threatening to them? CTs forcing them to build their nests lower? Now that the chemtrails have not been employed for a while, it has calmed down a bit. Also there are animals attacking that shouldn’t be. A friend of mine got attacked by a skunk – damn thing ran at him and tried to bite him (now that was kinda funny) LOL.
    Keep smiling people – we are gonna need to remember that. Love and Peace – Kimi

    In reply to: Reply To: CWD in Saskatchewan deer – 07/14/2005

    October 30, 2013 at 1:57 am #840
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Why is it that every article re Chronic Wasting Disease is sure to say "humans cannot get CWD"? Will they just call it something else?
    Peace
    Kimi Hurst

    In reply to: Reply To: CWD in Saskatchewan deer – 07/14/2005

    October 30, 2013 at 1:56 am #839
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 07/15/2005

    Hi Kimi
    They are just repeating what they have been told. In most virus life cycle that was true, but the new strains of infections are able to mutate to accomadate themselves in other hosts.
    If an invader (illness) to an organism is without cell walls, it can do 2 things; first of all the natual immune system can not locate it to kill it, leaving the animal (or person) with a very comprimised immune system ( perhaps something like CWD, I’m guessing here) and secondly it can become multi-host friendly and may jump species.
    The broard statement made by the media or sometime by wildlife biologists, is simple ignorence.
    Bridget

    In reply to: Reply To: West Coast marine life dying – 07/13/2005

    October 30, 2013 at 1:55 am #838
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 07/15/2005
    Re: Maybe a good contact here, thanks Bill

    Hi Bill
    It is interesting to see the term "smoking gun" used by the
    biologist, although, I think it is a coincidence.
    I’m of a mind to send; Julia Parrish, > associate professor in the
    School of Aquatic Fisheries and Sciences at the University of
    Washington"", all the AP articles regarding unusual bird, sea
    mammal, and fish anomalies that we have gathered.
    She is most likely a post-doc and therefore much more open to new
    and unusual documentation. She might find one or two new points to
    ponder.
    I’ll have to get her email through the University directory, not
    easy, but I have done this before.
    I need a few more hours in the day (don’t we all!) But we do what we
    can.
    Best regards
    Bridget

    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicki davis – 07/08/2005

    ‘The following is the email I sent out on ‘smart growth’ which is just another name for the UN global land use planning under the name of ‘sustainable growth’.

    It makes sense now why the Sierra Club wasn’t interested in the strange deaths of animals, birds and fish doesn’t it?

    Vicky wrote:
    Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:20:44 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Vicky Davis <eyeswideoopen>
    Subject: The UN is Coming ! The UN is Coming !
    To: eyeswideoopen@…

    Bringing the plan for a communist global village to you….

    Vicky wrote:
    Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
    Subject: Smart Growth!

    I just happened to listen to this radio program tonight in which this guy from Wisconsin has been fighting the UN Agenda 21 in his state! He said that the ‘Smart Growth’ legislation was slipped into an appropriations bill so the legislators didn’t even realize they were voting on it.

    Here is his website. He’s been fighting this since 2001

    http://www.takebackwisconsin.com/index.shtml
    http://www.carryingcapacity.org/smartgrowth.html More info – anti

    I went to the Wisconsin website and sure enough, it’s there. He said that the legislators voted to repeal it… the bill is on the governor’s desk but he hasn’t signed it yet. He also said that in Oregon what they did was to pass a law saying that anytime the state prohibits the use of property or designates it in such a way that it is no longer useable or saleable, the state must pay for the property.

    The guy on the radio said they wanted to change the structure of Wisconsin’s county and city governments. He said the ‘plan’ is for regional governments. I found this documentation on a Wisconsin website. Look at Item F
    http://cecommerce.uwex.edu/pdfs/G3750.PDF

    Apparently every county, town and city has to do a ‘growth plan’ using the tenets of the Smart Growth law.

    Here are the search results from the Wisonsin website –

    http://search.wi.gov/query.html?qt=Smart+Growth&x=9&y=9

    As I said, they are doing this in stealth mode. They are sending in NGO’s under different names to lobby state and local government officials. He said that the Sierra Club website listed the ones named ‘1000 Friends of…… state name. ‘ I went there and did a search. The search string was very long so I made a tinyurl out of it –

    http://tinyurl.com/96xq3

    Maryland

    http://www.smartgrowth.state.md.us/

    Montana

    http://www.mtsmartgrowth.org/

    City of Austin

    http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/smartgrowth/

    North Carolina

    http://www.ncsmartgrowth.org/

    California

    http://www.abag.ca.gov/planning/smartgrowth/

    Pennsylvania

    http://www.smartgrowthpa.org/

    Idaho

    http://www.idahosmartgrowth.org/
    New Jersey

    http://www.smartgrowthgateway.org/

    Tennessee

    http://eerc.ra.utk.edu/smart/title.htm

    Minnesota

    http://www.1000fom.org/smart_growth.htm

    Colorado

    http://www.dlg.oem2.state.co.us/smartgrowth/

    Vermont

    http://www.vtsprawl.org/Initiatives/sgcollaborative/VSGC_main.htm

    British Columbia, Canada

    http://www.smartgrowth.bc.ca/index.cfm

    National Geographic Virtual Planner

    http://www.nationalgeographic.com/earthpulse/sprawl/index_flash.html

    Schools

    http://www.edfacilities.org/rl/smart_growth.cfm

    There’s more links in my search but I thought I’d stop here. You get the idea.

    In reply to: Reply To: Dead birds in Georgia and Arizona – 07/07/2005

    October 29, 2013 at 9:34 pm #804
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Seeing more dead and dying birds in AZ too

    In 53 years I don’t remember ever seeing dead birds (except when they were intentionally shot for dinner) until about 2 years ago.

    -Vickie

    In reply to: Reply To: Crappies in Minnesota – 07/02/2005

    October 29, 2013 at 9:30 pm #800
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from jennifer – 07/03/2005′, ‘AH, I see we had the same idea…I sent the group url to
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com and explained to the guy that all these animal
    deaths happening lately are worrying those of us who give a sheet, and that
    MAYBE he should cover them and ask readers to report in to him (or us) about
    kills in their areas that aren’t being reported, since it could be that TPTB
    know many of us woudl say screw this and go live in the woods if TSHTF, and
    they want to prevent this. He is one who is aware of the NWO/Israeli plots
    concerning the US takeover, as well as the world. He made mention a while
    back about all the dead microbiologists as well.
    Maybe if we find bloggers who report the REAL news and point them at this,
    they will report on it and more people will wake up.

    Jen

    In reply to: Reply To: Crappies in Minnesota – 07/02/2005

    October 29, 2013 at 9:29 pm #799
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Hi Guys
    I absolutely agree, it would be nice to understand the purpose of
    this nightmare, but is there something in `these articles’ that we
    can use to raise awareness???
    How about hitting all the Game and Fish agencies with the url’s from
    SAD?
    I’m going to try this at AZ Game and Fish.
    I’ll post my letter and if I get a reply I’ll post that too. I
    probably will get some sort of reply, even if only a computer
    generated reply.
    We’ll see what happens.
    Hope you all have a safe and fun Fourth.
    Bridget

    In reply to: Reply To: Crappies in Minnesota – 07/02/2005

    October 29, 2013 at 9:28 pm #798
    Mike
    Keymaster

    ANybody notice thast the wild game supply of all kinds is what seems to be
    being killed off? COuld it be they don’t want us to be able to run off to
    the woods when they take over and TSHTF?

    Mike
    Keymaster

    from arufon – 06/25/2005′, ‘Re: Frog extinctions

    thanx Mike, great story.
    the decline in the amphibian populations is said
    to be a precursor or warning of extinctions
    to many other species of flora and fauna
    in the near future.
    it would seem that this "canary in the coalmine"
    may be singing his last song….

    Bill

    In reply to: Reply To: Fish die-off from red tide in Florida – 06/26/2005

    October 23, 2013 at 3:32 am #744
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicki davis –

    The pace is picking up isn’t it? A few more years and we won’t have any wildlife left

    Mike
    Keymaster

    from arufon – 06/19/2005′, ‘Re: Horseshoe crab decline puzzles scientists…

    Hi Bridget…
    Meeting would be a great idea, if we weren’t all so
    geographically isolated!

    As far as the ‘big picture’, it seems to me that the
    Horseshoe crab decline is just another example of the
    deline of nearly all species of flora and fauna on the planet.

    I’m not sure many people know, or would even care to
    know, but planet earth is currently undergoing extinction
    level event #6. this is the 6th time in ~600 million years
    that an extinction event of this magnitude has occurred.

    Pretty scary stuff. Does the public really want to know
    the truth of what is happening? My guess is they don’t.

    If you do have a presentation to the general public,
    i’d love to hear how it went!

    have a nice day!
    Bill (aka arufon)

    — In Strangeanimaldeaths@yahoogroups.com, bcoleman conroy
    bcolemanconroy8> wrote:
    Hi Guys
    I think this information is mighty powerful. I’d bet dollars to
    doughnuts almost none of the general public knows the sequence of
    these events.
    Anyone interested in meeting to figuring out some strategy to
    present the entire picture illustrating our deepest concern?
    Bridget

    In reply to: Reply To: Fish die-off in Wisconsin – 06/1/2005

    October 23, 2013 at 2:38 am #708
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from jennifer – 06/12/2005′, ‘Re: [Strangeanimaldeaths] Thousands Of Fish …

    Oh this is BS… Mosre as likely it was something in the ct’s all this week
    from them collapsing the damn thunderheads that would have cooled us off.
    Instead we had lots of wind and very little rain, and what did fall around
    this area was oily, nasty stuff.

    In reply to: Reply To: Fish die-off in Wisconsin – 06/1/2005

    October 23, 2013 at 2:36 am #706
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 06/11/2005′, ‘Thousands Of Fish … Thanks arufon
    Hi Vicky and arufon

    Yeah it is an amazing coincidence. I’m also troubled by the fact that the Game and Fish people aren’t connecting the dots.

    I want to stay OT here, but as an example; looking at one incident of, say, an unusual death of a prominent scientist, it’s not really alarming~ put the 30 or 40 similar incidents together and bingo, you’re looking at an entirely different picture.

    That is what one would hope the Game and Fish People would do with regards to the number of very strange animal death anomalies of all kinds of species.

    I just gave myself an idea; since I am making a nuisance of myself with one or two media folks reCT’s, I might as well start sending emails to the Game and Fish Department with this data.

    Vicky~ thanks so much for protecting the integrity of the data on SAD, asking for the AP and such. Very important issue, and as a former system analyst, this probably ranks high in your thinking, thanks.

    We here in Arizona, we have had (I believe 11) lakes come down with Golden Algae. I haven’t had time to look at the information/history of this algae but it is on my list of to do’s. I’d like to be a little bit educated on the topic before I start in w/ Game and Fish.

    Best to all
    Bridget

    In reply to: Reply To: Fish die-off in Wisconsin – 06/1/2005

    October 23, 2013 at 2:34 am #705
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicki davis – 06/11/2005′

    Isn’t it just an amazing ‘coincidence’ that fungus and bacteria are killing massive numbers of fish and birds all at the same time in different places in the country. Yeah… uh huh.

    In reply to: Reply To: More whale beachings in Australia – 06/02/2005

    October 23, 2013 at 2:20 am #696
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Hi Jena
    Well, some people give a damn:)Like you and me for instance and the numbers are growing.
    I’d have to look at the figures to say "I absolutely believe>>""chunks of Antartica and the Nothern Ice Caps falling off and melting away.
    That alone will change the compostion of the water ways and how it flows."">>
    We are talking about an enormous body(ies) of water to become appreciably affected by the Ice Cap Meltdown to date.

    The recent data on the tsunami of several months back indicate that it was the largest shift of the Earths crust ever, in all of recorded time. There are simply too many factors to piece together on our own. WE must keep moving forward to raise the awareness of all of these supposedly unrelated phenomena or events. Eventually, someone, or some group will see the light, (hear me praying for sure)

    No one wants to get sick and die, given a choise, not even the powers that be.

    I think about you often. Best to you.
    Bridget

    In reply to: Reply To: More whale beachings in Australia – 06/02/2005

    October 23, 2013 at 2:19 am #695
    Mike
    Keymaster

    You have to remember the Gulf Stream is functioning at tiny fraction of what
    it was 5 years ago, and the ocean is facing desalinization due to enormous
    chunks of Antartica and the Nothern Ice Caps falling off and melting away.
    That alone will change the compostion of the water ways and how it flows,
    which in turn will affect the magnetic lines the animals use to navigate.
    Also, the Navy uses those damn sonic dohickeys now that have been PROVEN to
    screw up migratory patterns in sea mammals and turtles, as well as some
    larger fish. We are killing ourselves and no one seems to give a damn.

    Poodles,
    *~*~*Jena*~*~*

    In reply to: Reply To: Exploding toads in Germany – 04/26/2005

    October 23, 2013 at 2:04 am #682
    Mike
    Keymaster

    From Jennifer:

    This sounds….Like a Bullsheet explanation to me…

    Exploding Toad Case Solved
    By Ruth Elkins in Berlin
    The Independent – UK
    5-9-5

    After weeks of flummoxing scientists, Germany’s great exploding toads mystery has been solved. They were gruesomely murdered by crows with a taste for foie gras.

    Health officials in Hamburg started to panic after some 1,000 toads puffed up and exploded last month, their entrails splattering an area of up to a square metre. The tabloid press went into overdrive, dubbing the carnage site in Hamburg’s Altona district the "Pond of Death" and warning children and dogs to stay away. Theories ran wild that toads were committing suicide or were croaking because of a virus spread by South American race horses. But now one of Germany’s top experts on amphibians says he’s cracked the case. Frank Mutschmann, who examined both dead and living Hamburg specimens at his Berlin research centre, found all had identical circular incisions on their backs, small enough to be the work of a bird’s beak. Then he found something strange: their livers were missing. "There were no bite or scratch marks, so we knew the toads weren’t being attacked by a raccoon or rat, which would have also eaten the entire toad," he said. "It was clearly the work of crows, which are clever enough to know the toad’s skin is toxic and realise the liver is the only part worth eating.

    "Only once the liver is gone does the toad realise it’s been attacked. It puffs itself up as a natural defence mechanism. But since it doesn’t have a diaphragm or ribs, without the liver there is nothing to hold the rest of its organs in. The lungs stretch out of all proportion and rip; the rest of the organs simply expel themselves."

    The toads’ grisly deaths are, in fact, a well-documented phenomenon. First recorded in Germany in 1968, exploding toads have been reported in the country, as well as in Belgium, Denmark and America. Hamburg’s toads started to explode during their week-long mating season. Dr Mutschmann believes the crows went in for the kill when the toads were too busy enjoying the heights of sexual excitement. "They would have noticed something as the crow pecked at them, but it wouldn’t have been particularly painful," he said.

    The riddle solved, the question now is whether to exact revenge on the crows. Toads, much-loved in Germany, are a protected species. But so are crows. "I’ve had several angry emails," said Dr Mutschmann. "But there’s no reason to worry. It’s just a part of nature."

    ©2005 Independent News & Media (UK) Ltd.

    In reply to: Reply To: Mad fish whirling disease – 05/06/2005

    October 23, 2013 at 2:01 am #681
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicki davis:

    We keep track of these kinds of critter deaths due to bullshit excuses. I think that the metals the military is spraying in chemtrails to improve communications is killing the critters – and us.

    In reply to: Reply To: Chronic wasting disease – cervids

    October 22, 2013 at 12:12 am #670
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Mad cow is the same as koru (sp?) in humans. It comes from cannibalism and eating the brain and fluids associated with it. You see it happen in male lions who take over another males pride and eats his young. They go squirrelly in head then loose their motor skills, and eventually die.

    Jena

    In reply to: Reply To: Chronic wasting disease – cervids

    October 22, 2013 at 12:11 am #669
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicki davis – 04/11/2005

    I think Chronic Wasting Disease and Mad Cow Disease are the same disease. They just call them different names so that people don’t know that our food sources are being poisoned. That includes crops as well as animals.

    In reply to: Reply To: Herring die-offs in puget sound – 04/02/2005

    October 22, 2013 at 12:01 am #664
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Hi Vicky and All
    Phillip, as a scientist, is looking at the incident of ‘herring die-off’ as a single incident. When one takes a serious look at the overview of, say, anomalous fish die-offs from around the country, it takes on a very different complexion.
    I hope Phillip is taking a close look at the other AP articles that have been posted on strangeanimaldeaths@yahoogroups.com
    I dare say, what he will read is likely just the ‘tip of the iceberg’.
    Vicky, you are a treasure. I thank God for all of us.
    Best to you all, Bridget

    In reply to: Reply To: Herring die-offs in puget sound – 04/02/2005

    October 21, 2013 at 11:53 pm #661
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicki davis – 04/02/2005

    Hi Philip. I’m glad you joined. We need all the people we can find to be watching for these stories and posting them and calling attention to them. You’ll notice as you read them that they always seem to have a semi-plausible reason – however, the reasons seem to be similar from region to region. Taken in totality it still spells something very wrong going on here.

    In reply to: Reply To: Herring die-offs in puget sound – 04/02/2005

    October 21, 2013 at 11:51 pm #660
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Archive Number 20050331.0933
    Published Date 31-MAR-2005
    Subject PRO/AH> Undiagnosed die-off, herring – USA
    (WA)(02)

    UNDIAGNOSED DIE-OFF, HERRING – USA (WASHINGTON)(02)
    ***********************************************
    A ProMED-mail post
    ProMED-mail is a program of the
    International Society for Infectious Diseases

    Date: 31 Mar 2005
    From: Michael A. Jacobs <mikejac>

    This case appears to be more likely a multifactorial problem than a real
    mystery. Warmer water temperatures and periodic draw-down events from dams
    have occurred in the early spring several times over the past decade. These
    inputs can spark bacterial blooms and other toxic blooms, such as algae.

    At the same time, industrial and agricultural expansion in the Skagit delta
    (the largest riverine input to Puget sound) and the Fraser River delta
    (under enormous pressure from growth of the Vancouver metropolitan area)
    may add fertilizer, further exacerbating the bloom problem, and also may
    increase the toxins mentioned in the original post to more lethal levels.
    Devastating logging in the area over the past 30 years has also
    dramatically altered runoff patterns in the spring.

    In addition, while shoreline development is tightly regulated in this part
    of the world, eelgrass beds (the shelter and habitat for herring) are
    shrinking. Perhaps there is a threshold effect, in that a minimum area of
    healthy eelgrass is needed to support a herring population.

    The impact of herring extinction would indeed be devastating.
    Unfortunately, the political trend in Washington and British Columbia is
    toward loosening regulation. For example, a large gravel mining project
    likely to be approved on the southern end of Vashon Island would likely
    destroy major eelgrass beds located at a critical junction between the main
    basin and southern part of the Puget Sound estuary.

    Severely affected species would not be limited to salmon and sea birds,
    but also the top predators in this system, which feed on those species,
    such as the Bald Eagle and Orca.

    Michael A. Jacobs PhD
    Univ. of Washington Genome Center
    Dept. of Medicine
    225 Fluke Hall Box 352145
    Seattle, WA 98198-2145

    Mike
    Keymaster

    Possible sonar link in dolphin beaching probed
    Submarine was conducting exercises a day before incident

    The Associated Press
    Updated: 8:46 p.m. ET March 5, 2005
    MARATHON, Fla. – The Navy and marine wildlife experts are investigating whether the beaching of dozens of dolphins in the Florida Keys followed the use of sonar by a submarine on a training exercise off the coast.

    More than 20 rough-toothed dolphins have died since Wednesday’s beaching by about 70 of the marine mammals, Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary spokeswoman Cheva Heck said Saturday.

    A day before the dolphins swam ashore, the USS Philadelphia had conducted exercises with Navy SEALs off Key West, about 45 miles from Marathon, where the dolphins became stranded.

    Navy officials refused to say if the submarine, based at Groton, Conn., used its sonar during the exercise.

    Sonar could pose danger

    Some scientists surmise that loud bursts of sonar, which can be heard for miles in the water, may disorient or scare marine mammals, causing them to surface too quickly and suffer the equivalent of what divers know as the bends — when sudden decompression forms nitrogen bubbles in tissue.

    “This is absolutely high priority,” said Lt. Cdr. Jensin Sommer, spokeswoman for Norfolk, Va.-based Naval Submarine Forces. “We are looking into this. We want to be good stewards of the environment, and any time there are strandings of marine mammals, we look into the operations and locations of any ships that might have been operating in that area.”

    Experts are conducting necropsies on the dead dolphins, looking for signs of trauma that could have been inflicted by loud noises.

    Several dolphins were euthanized after blood tests showed 13 of them were “not likely to recover at all and that they are suffering,” said Laura Engleby, a biologist with the National Marine Fisheries Service.

    “Some were still not swimming on their own, and they couldn’t hold themselves up,” Denise Jackson of the Marine Mammal Rescue Team said.

    More than 60 rough-tooth dolphins beached themselves Wednesday on flats and sandbars about a quarter mile off Marathon. Rescue teams moved the dolphins to a nearby canal where veterinarians have been conducting medical tests.

    The remaining 31 live dolphins were being given Pedialyte — a drink normally given to dehydrated human babies — and fresh water, Jackson said.

    Teams planned to move them by Saturday morning to rehabilitation facilities along the Keys or on the mainland, officials said.

    Rough-tooth dolphins normally inhabit deep waters in the Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean.

    Marathon, in the middle of the Florida Keys, is about 46 miles east of Key West.

    The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report
    — Vickie

    In reply to: Reply To: Beached whales in No.Carolina – 01/16/2005

    October 1, 2013 at 10:40 pm #629
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Or… it could be the Navy using directed energy at a fault line to cause an earthquake that will send a tsunami to the east coast.

    I think they are taking a break on that after they ran a sub into a mountain
    they caused to suddenly pop up over night…

    — Vickie