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  • In reply to: Reply To: Whales in Tasmania – 10/25/2005

    November 22, 2013 at 3:27 am #1071
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 10/29/2005
    Hi All
    this statement:"’It’s a very common area for strandings,’" is so
    broad, it practically is without meaning. I must guess this is the
    standard ‘party line’ response; a reguritation of words? That is my
    thinking.
    If it is so commonly understood and accepted, one would think the
    journalist might add some dates and figures.
    The media is without one thinking individual. I know, gag order and
    all of that, but self preservation should kick-in here pretty soon.
    Bridget

    Investigation called after mass whale deaths

    http://www.divemagazine.co.uk/news/article.asp?
    UAN=2454&v=2&sp=332768698674330704408
    The Australian Greens party has called for the Federal Government to
    investigate whether a Navy operation triggered the mass stranding of
    130 pilot whales off Tasmania. A huge effort is now underway to bury
    the carcasses of the whales, which beached themselves in Marion Bay
    in the southern Australian state earlier this week.

    Officials said the stranding was probably caused by the whales
    becoming disorientated in ‘confusing coastal waters’. However,
    Tasmanian Greens senator Christine Milne has called for the
    country’s defence minister Robert Hill to investigate the proximity
    of Navy sonar ships when the mass stranding happened.

    ‘It’s well known and quite well established that naval exercises
    using mid frequency or low frequency sonar do have a negative impact
    on whales, killing them in some cases, and also disrupting their
    ability to navigate,’ Milne told Australia’s ABC News.

    The Australian Navy denied its vessels were in the area at the time
    of the strandings. It also said its mine hunters, which were taking
    part in an exercise off Tasmania, had now returned to Melbourne.

    ‘From my understanding the whales would have been beached before the
    naval vessels were even in the vicinity of Marion Bay,’ said Navy
    commander George Sydney.

    Mark Pharaoh of the Tasmanian Parks and Wildlife Service, said it
    was unclear what happened, but believed complex topography of the
    area was probably to blame for the incident. He said the large bay
    has frequently changing water depths, sandy spits and rocky
    outcrops, as well as narrow opening to the ocean.

    ‘It’s a very common area for strandings,’ said Pharaoh. ‘The most
    common belief here is that, since these strandings are so regular,
    it’s basically difficult country for a whale to navigate in.’

    Wildlife officials and volunteers saved about 19 of the whales, but
    the 110 who died are being buried. Scientists have taken samples
    from the carcasses in an attempt to find out why the whales beached.

    In reply to: Reply To: Sea turtles in Florida – 10/17/2005

    November 22, 2013 at 3:12 am #1061
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 10/17/2005′, ‘Hi All

    I think we need to look at the histories where available, through
    say Game and Fish. Yet, I also think the shocked "quoted" response
    speaks volumes.

    It does seem that much of these anomalies fit the time line of
    Aerosol Spray Operation (weather modification).
    We do what we can. Keep raising awareness and let your elected
    officials know of your deep concern regarding the Bill HR 2995. We
    can make a difference, we must believe that.
    Best to you all,
    Bridget

    In reply to: Reply To: Bird flu coming to California – 09/28/2005

    November 22, 2013 at 3:01 am #1053
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 10/06/2005

    We know that aerosol spray is being used, well; the mysterious virus
    that was detected in the folks who attended antiwar demonstration in
    DC might easily be an excellent example.

    As we go through the files on this site, a picture forms which
    defies logic.

    It remains my deepest hope that all of you will make contact with
    others in your local regarding aerosol spraying aka chemtrails.
    Let me know if I can help you arrange any kind of get together
    Bridget

    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/avian_flu.html
    AVIAN FLU MAY COME TO AMERICA

    By Greg Szymanski
    Dr. Henry Niman has been dedicating his life as a microbiologist to
    tracking the mysterious avian flu outbreaks in almost every corner
    of the world for the last two years.

    Niman, who did his postgraduate work at the University of Southern
    California and now lives in Pittsburgh, isn’t in the business of
    scaring people with trumped-up biological conspiracy theories. But
    he is in the complicated business of trying to figure out how
    viruses mutate and how to best protect mankind against a flu
    pandemic that could kill millions of people worldwide.

    Niman says the avian flu, in one of its many mutated forms, is
    coming to America, the only questions remaining are when, what
    strain and how deadly.

    Niman says don’t rely on the government for advice, assistance or an
    immediate vaccine, since the United States, as well as the rest of
    the world, is playing a game of catch-up against the many strains of
    H5N1 avian flu.

    "The present pandemic vaccines have proven ineffective in 2004 for
    the Vietnam strain, and they are still ineffective for what is being
    called the wild bird flu strain and others," said Niman recently in
    an extended conversation
    from his Pittsburgh home.

    "We’ve known about the seriousness of H5N1 mutations and different
    forms of the virus for some time. We’ve had avian flu before, but
    this year the situation is extremely critical for a variety of
    reasons, including the many different strains detected and the
    unusually high mortality rate for some of those strains."

    MUCH CONTROVERSY

    Although there has been much controversy about whether human-to-
    human contact has been confirmed in H5N1 cases, Niman said 15 to 20
    clusters have been uncovered overseas and human-to-human passage of
    the deadly virus has been known since 2004.

    He said what compounds the problem is the World Health Organization
    (WHO) still refuses to acknowledge human-to-human passage of the
    Vietnam-type strain even though strong evidence exists such as three
    family members in Jakarta who all died from avian flu within a short
    period of time.

    As far as the United States is concerned, Niman says, "If it comes
    this year and it’s the wild bird flu strain, it will come from the
    north by way of bird migration. If it is the Vietnam strain, it will
    come from a person landing here on an airplane, and how and when
    that will occur is anybody’s guess."

    Niman said the avian flu symptoms, which are killing a high
    percentage of people overseas, include pneumonia, respiratory
    problems, internal bleeding and organ failure.

    Regarding the spread of the wild bird flu strain, he recently
    wrote: "Two wild birds—a duck and a magpie—have been found dead near
    Lake Sharonur in the Russian republic of Tannu Tuva—the first such
    case among wild birds reported.

    "The wild bird deaths described above may signal more H5N1 wild bird
    flu in southern Russia, just north of outbreaks reported in
    Mongolia. Mongolia invited WHO to help control the wild bird deaths,
    which were H5N1 positive," he said.

    Asked how he would protect his family against the many H5N1 strains
    he tracks on a daily basis, he added:

    "There really aren’t many alternatives, but I would stock up on
    antiviral medication. Besides that, devise a plan to isolate
    yourself with enough food and water for an extended period of time.

    "Keep your eyes open, because the bird flu is coming, and I don’t
    think the government will be much help," he said.
    (Issue #41, October 10, 2005)

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    In reply to: Reply To: Hurricane movement and fish die-offs – 09/20/2005

    November 18, 2013 at 9:19 pm #1022
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from jennifer – 09/25/2005′, ‘Ever seen this site??

    http://www.well.com/user/davidu/extinction.html

    Jena

    Bill wrote:
    thanx for posting this site, Jena.

    it seems that few people are even aware that
    we are currently undergoing an extinction level event.

    extinction level event #6, to be precise.

    that is, this is the 6th time in post-cambrian
    geologic history that a massive species dieoff
    is happening.

    it is estimated that approx 50,000 species
    of flora and fauna bite the dust every year.

    unfortunately, we humans are mostly to blame
    for this… it’s no wonder most people would
    rather not know what’s going on.

    bill

    In reply to: Reply To: Hurricane movement and fish die-offs – 09/20/2005

    November 18, 2013 at 8:59 pm #1021
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from andy anderson – 09/23/2005′, ‘i think those fish were moving away from a "red tide"
    or more specifically, a harmful algal bloom that is
    happening on the bottom. warmer temperatures
    are one of the stimuli for red tide. i know the gulf
    waters are warmer than the historical norm.

    all things happening in nature are connected,
    eventually if not directly.

    — Ted Howard <chaosmosis> wrote:

    I have been keeping up a little with the magnetoreception abilities of birds and other animals also. Some articles I read said that the means to navigate by magnetics goes way back the evolutionary chain to protozoa and may be common to all creatures. It makes me wonder if we, humans, still have a magnetic "sense" that we aren’t fully aware of.

    Changes whether man-made or not in the Earth’s magnetic field could account for
    the strange behavior of fish also like this:

    http://www.sun-herald.com/NewsArchive2/080505/ew11.htm?date=080505&story=ew11.htm

    But there could be obviously lots of reasons for sea creatures behaving weird. I guess we still don’t know why whales beach themselves either do we?

    Strange behaviour of the fish and ocean dwellers lately

    On 9/23/05, andy anderson wrote:
    one thing to consider…birds use the magnetic lines around the earth for navigation when they migrate. HAARP is messing with the electomagnetic grid of the planet. Could it be the migratory paths have changed due to an unseen (to humans) change in the magnetic
    lines.
    or perhaps a change has confused them.

    just speculation, i have no facts support this, as of yet.

    In reply to: Reply To: Hurricane movement and fish die-offs – 09/20/2005

    November 18, 2013 at 8:54 pm #1020
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicky davis – 09/23/2005′, ‘Here is an email that I sent to the reporters who wrote the story on the strange behavior of the fish –

    RE: Strange fish parade seen in Englewood

    Why don’t you investigate weather modification and microwaves from satellites – technically used for communications but easily used for other more nefarious purposes?

    Are you aware that the same thing happened in Texas and Florida? Don’t you think this is mighty coincidental?

    In reply to: Reply To: West nile virus rampant in California – 09/15/2005

    November 12, 2013 at 12:26 am #996
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 09/16/2005′, ‘""A necropsy determined the cause of death was a West Nile infection and also secondary fungal pneumonia, Pitts said.""

    Gosh, we’ve seen plenty of both these infection. If I had the time, I
    would research data on fungal anomalies since Controlling the Weather
    aka Chemtrails began in earnest about Nov 1998.

    California condor chick died last month of West Nile virus
    By The Associated Press Thursday, September 15, 2005

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — A 3-month-old California condor chick that died last month was killed by West Nile virus, federal environmental officials said Tuesday.

    Scientists attempted to retrieve the chick from its nest for a medical examination but it died Aug. 25 before being treated, said Alex Pitts, spokeswoman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. The chick hatched May 19 in the wild in Ventura County.

    A necropsy determined the cause of death was a West Nile infection and also secondary fungal pneumonia, Pitts said.

    Pitts said California condors in captivity and the wild have been inoculated with a West Nile vaccine. The chick’s parents were vaccinated in June 2003 and again in June 2004.

    The Fish and Wildlife Service plans to also give chicks hatched in the wild the vaccine, Pitts said.

    "They’re very endangered and the West Nile virus doesn’t help," she said. "It’s another hurdle that people recovering condors have to clear."

    Another chick was hatched in the wild this year in California, according to the service. That chick, which was removed from its nest after appearing underdeveloped, underwent surgery to remove human trash it had ingested.

    There are 125 condors living in the wild in California, Arizona and Baja California, Mexico. An additional 151 reside at the Los Angeles Zoo, San Diego Wild Animal Park, Oregon Zoo and the Peregrine Fund’s World Center for Birds of Prey in Boise, Idaho.

    http://tinyurl.com/yqk35b

    In reply to: Reply To: Triple-E virus in New Hampshire – 09/12/2005

    November 12, 2013 at 12:14 am #989
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 09/13/205′, ‘http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NH_TRIPLE_E_WARNING_NHOL-?
    SITE=NHCON&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
    Sep 13, 3:28 PM EDT

    http://tinyurl.com/85okd
    More animals test positive for West Nile, EEE
    Dead birds in Keene, Madbury and Salem tested positive for West Nile,
    for a total of 19 this year

    In reply to: Reply To: Triple-E virus in New Hampshire – 09/12/2005

    November 12, 2013 at 12:13 am #988
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 09/13/2005

    http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/state/050913westnile.shtml
    Tuesday, September 13, 2005
    State tracking West Nile

    By JOSIE HUANG, Portland Press Herald Writer

    Public health officials are also keeping an eye out for another
    mosquito-borne virus, the more lethal Eastern equine encephalitis.
    Called Triple E, the virus has been showing up with greater ferocity
    in New England. A 20-year-old New Hampshire woman died Friday, just
    weeks after the virus claimed the lives of a 5-year-old girl and an
    83-year-old from Massachusetts.

    In reply to: Reply To: Elk deaths in Wyoming = lightning – 08/27/2005

    November 11, 2013 at 10:52 pm #966
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 08/28/2005

    Re: [Strangeanimaldeaths] Re: [Wyoming] Lightning blamed for elk deaths

    I know that is the opinion of several folks too, but there have been unpresidented lightening incident in Tempe AZ and around the country. It’s hard to know what to believe, but there are some interesting coincidences regarding electromagnetic manipulation. My mind is open on this one.
    More information is bound to ‘shake-out’ in due time.
    Bridget

    In reply to: Reply To: Elk deaths in Wyoming = lightning – 08/27/2005

    November 11, 2013 at 10:48 pm #963
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from rocky – 08/28/2005

    Re: [Strangeanimaldeaths] Re: [Wyoming] Lightning blamed for elk deaths

    I’m sorry, but this is one of most asinine things I’ve ever heard of. ~Rocky

    In reply to: Reply To: Elk deaths in Wyoming = lightning – 08/27/2005

    November 11, 2013 at 10:46 pm #962
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Hi there All
    Strange and stranger.
    read below for a misssive via pac-pc RE: strange ligtening in the
    Phoenix area.
    Bridget

    ‘Bizarre’ lightning strike to be studied
    Art Thomason
    The Arizona Republic
    Aug. 11, 2005 12:00 AM

    A top National Weather Service expert in Phoenix will
    investigate a powerful lightning strike that "sounded like
    dynamite exploding," damaging 13 homes in central Mesa on
    Tuesday afternoon.

    "This is beyond the norm," meteorologist David Runyan said.
    "It’s bizarre. It intrigues us. We will seek some means to
    understand it a little more."

    The lightning bolt drawing all the attention caused extensive
    damage to a home in the 2000 block of East Seventh Avenue,
    near Broadway and Gilbert roads, as its charge sped to other
    structures through underground wiring and wet soil.

    Mesa firefighters, who have seen the aftermath of other
    lightning strikes over the years, said they have never
    witnessed anything like the effects of the Seventh Avenue
    strike. They believe the strike, recorded at 4:45 p.m., first
    hit the home, owned by Al Ogawa and Richard McTevia, and
    spread its powerful charge underground.

    The force’s intense heat exploded underground wires, including
    television cable, near the home, erupted through the soil and
    spewed dirt and debris like volcanic ash against homes, trees
    and parked vehicles. Areas around brass doorknobs and locks
    were scorched.

    ATMOSPHERIC CONDUCTIVITY II
    Clifford E Carnicom
    Santa Fe, NM
    May 07 2003
    http://carnicom.com/elf33.htm

    A method to estimate the conductivity of the lower atmosphere has
    been established. This method relies upon the use of a Van de Graaf
    generator of a rated voltage capacity, along with the measurement of
    the maximum spark length gap that can be achieved. Results from this
    method indicate an increase in the conductivity of the lower
    atmosphere by a factor of approximately 3 to 20.

    This model, if accepted, supports the claim that the fundamental
    electrical nature of the atmosphere has been altered as a result of
    the aerosol operations that continue to be conducted without informed

    In reply to: Reply To: Elk deaths in Wyoming = lightning – 08/27/2005

    November 11, 2013 at 10:45 pm #961
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicky davis – 08/27/2005

    Re: [Strangeanimaldeaths] [Wyoming] Lightning blamed for elk deaths

    Anybody who believes this is a freaking moron.

    Mike
    Keymaster

    red tide – 08/25/2005′, ‘from bridget:

    http://museum.gov.ns.ca/poison/redtide.htm

    RED TIDE:
    Not every plant poisoning is caused by a large, terrestrial plant. Several microscopic marine algae are notoriously poisonous to hapless humans who consume them in shellfish.
    These Algae are tiny, single-celled plants that, like plants on land, capture and use the sun’s energy to grow. The growth of algae is an essential life process, as it is the first step in transferring solar energy into aquatic food webs. The huge variety of marine algae are typically subject to annual cycles of growth & decay. These organisms thrive and multiply principally during the spring and summer, in response to increased light intensity and favourable levels of salinity & nutrients in ocean water. During the growth period, or bloom, each single algae cell may replicate itself one million times in two to three weeks.

    During the reproductive riot of the bloom, warm, shallow seawater tends to become discoloured by the sheer concentration of algae seeking the sunlight. This discolouration is a result of the various pigments the plants use to trap sunlight; depending on the species of algae present, the water may reflect pink, violet, orange, yellow, blue, green, brown, or red. Since red is the most common pigment, the phenomenon has come to be called Red Tide.

    Most species contributing to algal blooms are harmless, BUT (another big but!) some species are poisonous to animals which feed upon them directly or indirectly. Some of the toxins these species produce are seriously toxic. Often, the algae themselves are unaffected, as are the filter feeders, especially shellfish, for whom micro-algae are the principal diet. However, to carnivores further up the food chain, including humans, these toxins are potentially FATAL.

    As in the case of poisonous fungi, scientific knowledge of poisonous algae is incomplete; indeed, new and alarming toxic algae are still coming to light. In Nova Scotia, however, three different algae are known to cause three, distinct, severe to deadly poisonings:

    Alexandrium causes Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning (PSP)
    Dinophysis causes Diarrhetic Shellfish Poisoning (DSP)
    Pseudo-nitzschia multiseries causes Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning (ASP)
    .
    CLICK on the names above for a microscopic view and specific information.

    POISON LOCATION
    THE GUTS AND INTESTINAL TRACT of shellfish and fish which have consumed toxic algae accumulate and store the toxins. As a result, fish, provided they are gutted in the usual manner, are not a threat; nor, ironically, are scallops- a shellfish whose "meats"- the muscles that open and close its shell- are the only parts harvested for food. All other infected shellfish, however- especially mussels, oysters & clams- may cause ASP, PSP, or DSP because they are eaten whole.

    POISON TYPE
    DOMOIC ACID is an amino acid-based toxin which is potentially lethal. Tiny amounts can have deadly results (see below) in humans. Algal blooms can also cause other problems besides toxicity. When an algae bloom dies back in a shallow bay, oxygen-depleting bacteria may thrive on the dead algae and so kill fish and other marine life. Sometimes floating algae cut eelgrass beds off from sunlight, robbing shellfish of habitat. On fish farms, concentrations of algae can simply clog the gills of the fish, causing respiratory failure.

    TYPICAL POISONING SCENARIO

    Almost all incidents involve the accidental ingestion of mussels, clams, oysters or other shellfish affected by toxic algae. Since there is no visual method for determining whether particular shellfish are affected, Canada has been carrying out extensive laboratory monitoring of shellfish toxicity since 1943. As soon as these routine studies detect dangerous concentrations of toxic algae, Fisheries and Oceans Canada posts affected beaches and estuaries with orders closing them to shellfish harvesting.

    It is dangerous to ignore these signs, which are commonplace in Nova Scotia during the warmer months. Little wonder that folklore warns us not to eat shellfish in months with no "r" in their names! By the mid-Eighteenth Century, shellfish poisoning was so commonplace as to give rise to the London proverb, "There is no venturing on oysters, Sir, or women of the town"…

    SYMPTOMS
    Shellfish poisoning, of whatever sort, is UNPLEASANT AND OFTEN LETHAL. The onset of symptoms occurs as soon as the victim’s digestive system starts to work on the infected shellfish. In the case of paralytic shellfish poisoning (PSP), the toxin attacks the nervous system and causes paralysis. There is no antidote; death occurs from asphyxiation or respiratory paralysis.
    PSP has been known since biblical times; what is thought to be PSP figures in the Book of Exodus, and the Red Sea is thought to have been named for the signs of frequent blooms of algae. Not for nothing did the Judaic Partriarchs proscribe shellfish…

    The first recorded case in Canada, however, occurred in 1793, during Captain George Vancouver’s expedition to what is now British Columbia, when John Carter, a seaman, died from the effects of eating mussels, presumably infected with toxic algae. An eyewitness account of his death occurs in the June 17 diary entry of the expedition naturalist and surgeon, Archibald Menzies.

    Diarretic Shellfish poisoning, as the name suggests, causes extreme gastrointestinal upset; DSP is less dangerous than PSP, but failure to treat the diarrhoea may lead to death from dehydration or other complications.

    Domoic acid, which causes amnesic shellfish poisoning, binds to chemical receptors in brain cells and causes their dysfunction. The poisoning begins with stomach upset, rapidly followed by dizziness, disorientation, and memory loss- symptoms which often persist indefinitely. During a 1987 outbreak on PEI, 1% of the reported poisonings resulted in death from brain damage.

    Mike
    Keymaster

    Re: [Strangeanimaldeaths] Tampa Tribune reporter

    <I don’t think I would be interested in following this inquiry.>

    Bridget,
    Don’t you let this get you down, Kiddo! One of the best ways to wage a war is through gorilla warfare. Sneak up on the bad guys in small groups…lots of small groups. Call in radio shows are always a fun way to sneak your way in. You take care and stay safe!
    ~Rocky

    Mike
    Keymaster

    Hi Folks
    No big surprise; here is the responce from the Tampa Trib reporter.
    We do what we can. I did send him the AP articles from around the country, along with the TAP gov’t documents.
    Bridget

    I don’t think I would be interested in following this inquiry.
    Thanks, Mike Salinero

    In reply to: Reply To: Globl extinctions in marine species – 08/22/2005

    November 11, 2013 at 10:07 pm #934
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Hi Folks
    These stories are so vague, as s read through main stream media, for
    example "Back in 1995, there was a similar situation"
    Just what is meant by similar????
    Can this be all part of a """similar""" scenario, all them enormous
    numbers from coast to coast?
    Really short on facts, I can only guess it is an intentional lack of
    information, or sheer stupidity.
    I would expect more from as 9th grader, honestly. It is a good
    beginning, but where is the journalistic meat??
    Never mind me; it just makes my head spin to realize how little we
    expect from the professionals.
    Best to you all,
    Bridget’

    In reply to: Reply To: Fish kill in Iowa – 08/21/2005

    November 1, 2013 at 8:16 pm #915
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from jennifer – 08/21/2005

    Huh…this is only 10 miles from my house and I haven’t heard ANYTHING at
    all about it on the news… we have been chemmed to death thougf the past 3
    weeks… heavy nasty crap that has given me a lung yucky…

    In reply to: Reply To: Fish kill in Iowa – 08/21/2005

    November 1, 2013 at 8:08 pm #912
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicki davis – 08/21/2005

    I think that is the first article I’ve seen that indicates that eco-terrorism is a possible cause.

    In reply to: Reply To: Bighorn sheep in California – 08/15/2005

    October 30, 2013 at 7:44 pm #904
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 08/19/2005′, ‘Hi Folks
    All kinds of epidemics brewing.
    There is no small measure of irony that these ‘epidemics’ have
    escaladed since "weather modification" began in earnest, in the fall
    of 1998.
    I really don’t know anything for sure, but that is the salt to the
    wound ~ being kept in the dark about the very things which we can
    witness with our own God given eyes.
    Bridget

    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/californ
    ia/northern_california/12417344.htm
    California & the West
    Scientists concerned as two more bighorn sheep die from pneumonia
    Associated Press

    PALM DESERT, Calif. – Pneumonia has killed two more Peninsular
    bighorn sheep and scientists say they fear an epidemic is brewing
    that could wipe out the endangered species.
    The sheep, one a yearling, were found Saturday and Monday in the
    northern Santa Rosa Mountains, said Jim DeForge, director of the
    nonprofit Bighorn Institute.
    That makes seven deaths in less than three weeks among a population
    of just 705 animals.
    "Our big concern is that, with this relatively large number of
    deaths due to pneumonia, we’re at the beginning of an epidemic,"
    said Walter Boyce, director of the UC Davis Wildlife Health Center.
    There are concerns that pneumonia may have killed an entire
    generation of sheep.
    "We have in the northern Santa Rosas 15 yearling rams and we can’t
    find but one or two of them," DeForge said.
    It was unclear whether the pneumonia was being spread by an insect
    or sheep-to-sheep, Boyce said.
    "We have to figure out what the cause is and that will determine
    what management options we have," Boyce said.
    Boyce said some good news was received Wednesday when a biologist
    making an aerial survey of the mountains got signals from about 50
    sheep wearing radio collars.
    Peninsular bighorn sheep roam the desert mountain slopes, canyons
    and washes from the Palm Springs area south into Baja California.
    Their lifespan is 12 to 14 years.
    The sheep, who numbered around 1,200 in the 1970s declined to about
    280 by 1996. They rebounded after they were designated an endangered
    species in 1998.

    Mike
    Keymaster

    The beginning of this missive did start with Bill from
    strangeanimaldeaths@yahoogroups.com Mike Salinero is with the Tampa
    Tribune in Tampa FL. He (mike) and I spoke yesterday morning and the
    following is what I promised to start him with.
    Without folks like Bill from SAD and Rocky our own treasure here on
    pac-pc, we would be walking around in the dark without direction.
    Bridget
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Hello Mike,

    Short bio; I am a retired educator from Paradise Valley School
    District, in Phoenix Arizona.
    Married to my college sweetheart for 27 years, and the mother of 3
    grown children.

    My deepest concern in these times is the program called "Owning the
    Weather by 2025"
    Atmospheric spraying has been in operation in earnest since November
    1998, which coincidently is the beginning of the numerous marine,
    woodland animals, and humane health conundrums.
    I have personally witnessed this aerosol crime from coast to coast,
    and in fact, reports have been recorded globally, also witnessed by
    me as well.
    I happily will send you further information in CD and DVD format,
    upon request.

    The actual data regarding Global Warming, simply does not add up
    properly. I do not claim to know what purpose or to what end, this
    operation intended. I do know for absolute certain, this operation
    continues to exist, and it is without our consent and with dire
    consequences which are evidenced in health anomalies in all living
    things.
    Please understand, I am not an animal rights activist. In fact, I
    have never been considered an activist of any kind. This issue,
    however, begs the immediate attention of all people who are
    concerned about the health and future of our families and
    communities.
    Perhaps "Truth" is too lofty a notion in these governmental post
    modern times, but, one must take a stand on the issue of our well
    being, if on nothing else.
    This is simply the tip of the ice-berg.
    Sincerely and best regards,
    Bridget C Conroy
    602-493-1511
    bcolemanconroy8@y…

    Suggested reading:
    http://www.weatherwars.info
    TROPOSPHERIC AEROSOL PROGRAM
    http://www.tap.bnl.gov/

    http://www.theorator.com/bills109/s517.html
    http://www.airapparent.ca/activities_media/mar23_05_taaborn.htm
    http://www.aaar.org/

    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 08/14/2005′, ‘I’ll be speaking with a Journalist out of Tampa tomorrow early a.m.

    Hi Guys
    One important point to keep in mind is the scope of these massive
    toxic algae out-breaks. They are from coast to coast including lake
    areas from land/locked states as well.
    I hope to get the reporter, Mike Salinero, (article posted by Bill),
    who wrote the AP article re: dead area in Tampa.
    Maybe I can whet his appetite with our AP information from here on
    SAD
    Somethin’ aint right and the news media ain’t talking to each other
    or they would not be sleeping at night.
    WE’ll see what we’ll see. I’ll post whatever comes of the
    conversation.
    BTW, my next door neighbor returned from their family vacation in
    the Huntington Beach CA area; and yep, they were warned of the "Red
    Tide" there too. It is posted on the Life Guard Stations.
    WE just do everything we can.
    Bridget

    http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
    AID=/20050814/NEWS/508140382/1004Published Sunday, August 14, 2005
    NAPLES
    Scientists Measure Red Tide Outbreak

    Scientists were trying to measure the size of a red tide outbreak
    after about 40 reports of dead ocean life at the bottom of the Gulf
    of Mexico off the Southwest Florida coast.

    Since the beginning of August, the Fish and Wildlife Research
    Institute in St. Petersburg has received reports of mass destruction
    of sea life in areas ranging from southern Hernando County to
    northern Sarasota County.

    The institute sent scientists on a research cruise last week to
    measure the size of the red tide outbreak and the areas of dead
    marine life.

    Their findings may be available by this week.

    The dead ocean life, ranging from goliath grouper and sea turtles to
    corals, crabs and starfish, were found at 50 feet deep or less.

    In reply to: Reply To: Fish die-off in Oregon – 08/13/2005

    October 30, 2013 at 7:15 pm #887
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicki davis – 08/13/2005′, ‘The story below describes a massive fish die-off due to lack of oxygen. If this were only happening in Oregon, we might believe that it was a naturally occuring anomolous event. But it is happening all over the country.

    Join this group to see all of the stories of critters dying. It’s called the SAD group

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Strangeanimaldeaths/

    This is eco-terrorism. The excuses given for critter deaths are always suspect – especially when you see all the same stories being said in different areas of the country.

    1. Who has a social agenda using the environment? Mikhail Gorbachev and the UN

    2. Who is trying to sell the world on the idea that our globe is dying. UN, Mikhail Gorbachev and Al Gore

    3. And what is the cure for the globe? Slowly remove property rights from individuals – especially their water rights and herd the people into ‘human settlements’ for sustainable development. Implementation of Agenda 21

    http://www.globalgreen.org/
    http://www.eagleforumofidaho.org/Commentary/comm00002_mikhail_gorbachev.htm
    http://www.amerikanexpose.com/ Everyday at 3:00 pm eastern time, Chris Gerner talks about the UN programs and Agenda 21. http://www.rbnlive.com/

    There is also an archive of the programs so you can listen to the last week of programs. If you don’t know anything about what the UN is doing, you will be shocked.

    http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Gerner05.html

    Be sure to read Gorbachev’s Rio Speech….
    http://tinyurl.com/7elnh

    Those who act mainly within the framework of non-governmental organizations might feel the difficulty to keep track of that new paradigm which could substitute the old one, within the limits of which we have lived and developed for the last three hundred years. It is enormously difficult to change the situation for the better. We all have confronted the choice of either being swept away by time and nature, or of facing the realities, assessing the present situation in our world, in nature, to our relationships with our fellow human beings, their situations and their needs. All of this forces us to accept the fact that this civilization has already outlived itself, and we all have to think about the difficult transition based on consensus on the main values which could help us to build our future.

    The main goal of the Earth Charter, the draft of which we adopted 18 March, 1997, is formation of a new outlook; a new set of values. The discussion on these issues was extremely difficult. We have even debated the desirability of addressing this semi-finished document to the world public, governments, business. Yes, I admit that this document is far from being ideal. It is far from those 10 or 15 Commandments which we all know about and which have played their role for 2000 years. But here is the document which can be considered as an important step toward those famous testaments. The members of the Earth Charter Commission came to the conclusion that we need this intermediate version, a preliminary draft which should be taken from the shuttered world of conferences and round tables to the turbulent world of the world public. Our planet Earth existed billions of years. There was long periods of transitions from one form of life to others, without a human. If we do not change our behavior it might happen again, and this depends on us. In its essence the Earth Charter shifts the focus to people on the Earth, their responsibilities, their morals and spirituality, their way of consumption. To save humankind and all future generations, we must save the Earth.

    What is happening to our wildlife is so evil that it could only be the work of the "Evil Empire" aided and abetted by traitors in our own country – "Thinking globally, Acting Locally". Using a social agenda to implement a political agenda.

    http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/

    http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/FreeTrade/GATS.asp
    http://www.wto.org/
    http://www.un.org/esa/
    http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/sustainable_development.htm
    http://www.wbcsd.org/templates/TemplateWBCSD5/layout.asp?MenuID=1
    http://www.un.org/esa/sustdev/natlinfo/indicators/indisd/indsearch/agendachapter.html
    Think about it. Research it. And put a stop to it.
    http://www.un.org/english/

    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 08/13/2005

    Hey Bill
    I got it in my head to give this reporter a call. Friendly and diplomatic; I just thought he would enjoy a ‘heads-up’ regarding the many other animal death anomalies.
    I guess I’m back building up some steam:)
    Gosh, I’m so lucky to have you all~thank all powers we have each other.
    Bridget

    Mike
    Keymaster

    from arufon – 08/13/2005′, ‘this is really getting scary…

    http://news.tbo.com/news/MGB7OVBE8CE.html

    Saturday, August 13
    Divers In Gulf Report `Zero Things’ Alive

    By MIKE SALINERO msalinero@…
    Published: Aug 11, 2005

    CLEARWATER – Diver Mike Miller struggles to convey the horror he has
    seen on the ocean floor. He struggles because there are only so many
    ways you can say dead.
    I’m talking zero things are alive out there,” Miller said. The
    only way to describe it is a nuclear bomb.”

    Miller and other alarmed divers say they have documented a dead zone
    20 miles offshore in the Gulf waters from Johns Pass to Clearwater.
    This information, combined with an unprecedented number of dead
    turtles washing up on Pinellas County beaches this week, has divers,
    fishermen and scientists worried that red tide is killing more
    efficiently.

    Normally when we get a red tide, you can go a little north or a
    little west or south or someplace else and dive,” said Ben
    Dautermen, who takes divers out of Clearwater on his charter boat.
    Usually it doesn’t kill every single thing.”

    Red tide, an algae toxic to fish and an irritant to humans who
    breathe its choking vapors, has hung stubbornly to Florida’s west
    coast for close to three months. Miller and other longtime locals who
    make their living in the Gulf say it’s the worst outbreak in their
    experience.

    Though it’s not certain that red tide killed the turtles, scientists
    at the Fish & Wildlife Research Institute in St. Petersburg think the
    toxic algae wiped out sea life, creating the dead zone Miller and
    other divers discovered.

    The scientists’ theory goes like this: Red tide cells don’t like to
    pass through water temperature differences of more than 2 degrees.
    Scientists think a thermocline, or zone of cold water, formed above
    the warmer water at the bottom, holding the algae bloom there longer
    than it naturally would stay.

    So the things that would not normally be affected were exposed for
    longer periods,” said Jeremy Lake, spokesman for the institute.

    The toxic atmosphere worsened as dead organisms such as crabs and
    shellfish decomposed, consuming dissolved oxygen in the water.

    Lake said the institute sent 10 biologists Wednesday for a three-day
    cruise to gather information on the dead zone and the status of the
    red tide.

    Since Sunday, the Clearwater Marine Aquarium has picked up 20 dead
    sea turtles. Four sick turtles are being given around-the-clock care
    at the aquarium. The turtles, too weak to swim, are being kept on wet
    mats and covered with wet towels, said Dana Zucker, the aquarium’s
    director of community relations. They are hosed down every 30
    minutes.

    Most of the turtles are loggerheads, but there also have been a few
    Kemp’s ridleys, one of the most endangered types of turtles, said
    Janine Cianciolo, veterinarian and director of animal care at the
    aquarium. Cianciolo said the turtles were showing signs of red tide
    intoxication, but the cause of death won’t be known until tissue
    samples are analyzed.

    Reporter Mike Salinero can be reached at (813) 259-8303.

    In reply to: Reply To: Swans and geese in Mongolia – 08/11/2005

    October 30, 2013 at 7:02 pm #882
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from arufon – 08/13/2005′, ‘Re: I’m still w/ this. "and nobody’s talking?? ..Bill

    hi Bridget…
    it does seem that we are in the era of ‘designer diseases’…
    i find it quite odd that so many really bizarre diseases
    seem to be cropping up all the time.

    (i’d really love to be a fly on the wall at CDC headquarters
    and hear what they really think about all this.
    i’m sure what they know and what they tell john q public
    are entirely dissimilar.)

    glad to see that you are involved in getting the word
    out… it’s amazing how many people are so clueless about
    what’s going on. just out of curiosity.. what do you suppose
    the CT’s are about? in this area (boston), the trails are
    most noticeable in the early morning hours. maybe they
    figure if people are half asleep rushing to work, they won’t
    be looking at what’s going on!

    what a crazy world this is becoming…

    Bill

    Mike
    Keymaster

    from vicki davis – 08/12/2005′, ‘Anita wrote:
    Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 23:07:30 -0400
    Subject: Everything is dead…

    Gulf of Mexico mystery (August 10, 2005)
    http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2005/8/10/112685.html
    (…) "Right now, anywhere we go from shore to 20 miles offshore, from
    Sarasota to Tarpon Springs, we can’t find a single creature alive on the
    bottom right now," said Miller. Miller says he’s never seen such death and
    devastation under water in his 20 years of diving. "All the coral, all the
    sponges, all the crabs, not a single living thing, all the star fish, the
    brittle stars, everything’s dead," said Miller. CLIP

    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 08/12/2005′, ‘Hi Guys
    What these people need to do is look at the unpresidented chain of
    toxic algae events. This is unheard of, I’ve looked. Well sure they
    can cite an isolated event in one location from over 30 years ago,
    and that might satisfy many people into thinking "oh, this has
    happened before"
    Thank all powers in Heaven, we have been keeping tabs on the true
    events in a chronology of sorts. I know we probably have missed some
    of the documentation, still, what we are doing is very good.
    Best to all, Bridget

    http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/12346108.htm
    Posted on Wed, Aug. 10, 2005

    R E L A T E D L I N K S
    • Red tide, effects hang on along barrier islands
    • Red tide suspected in deaths of ten sea turtles

    In reply to: Reply To: Swans and geese in Mongolia – 08/11/2005

    October 30, 2013 at 4:34 pm #879
    Mike
    Keymaster

    from bridget – 08/12/2005′, ‘Re: I’m still w/ this. "and nobody’s talking?? ..Bill

    i wonder how long before this ‘bird flu virus’
    > turns up in the U.S.? or has it already and nobody’s
    > talking??
    > ..Bill

    ~~~~~~
    Hi there Bill

    Actually, I think it has already appeared here in some form
    What makes it difficult to identify, much like CWD in the animal
    kingdom, or Fibromyalgia among humans (to name only one of the many
    illnesses); is that this type of organism is without cell walls; for
    example Mycoplasma, but bioengineered.
    It makes it difficult not only to identify in the scientific arena,
    also our natural immune system can not find it.
    This also allows the organisms to jump species, which is something
    we are seeing more and more.
    We are talking molecular mimicry of the worst kind.
    Well at least we’re talking 🙂 that is a beginning and our lifeline.
    I have become supremely suspicious,,, "fool me once, shame on me,
    fool me twice shame on you" type of mind set.

    I ask myself, "How can this operation of Controlling the Weather, or
    Weather Modification, continue right over our heads, without our
    consent or knowledge, to the tune of billions of dollars and at the
    expense of our very future, without so much as a ripple? We are
    seeing extremely stringent control in the media, combined with daily
    conditioning as to what is "normal".

    Gosh, I’m going to a 9-11 meet-up, but these folks don’t believe in
    chemtrails, go figure.
    Anyway, I’ll just check out the mood and hand out some flyers.
    I’m glad to be back, sorta.

    (Post script next a.m.) As it turns out, some of the folks are aware
    of CT’s but unaware of the far reaching effect on all living things.
    Long story short~I figure we can help each other. When the gov’t has
    clay feet, it make little difference from what direction we `chip
    away’ to topple the monument of lies.

    I remain grateful and blessed to have all of us on the same page.
    Bridget

    Mike
    Keymaster

    from jennifer – 08/11/2005′

    People forget that it is the sea that allows the planet to thrive. If the sea dies, we all die. The sea is where life began.